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中文/粵語其實好多主動-被動共用一字嘅例子

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離 & 來 can also be pronounced the same as lei4

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Re: 馬騮

"馬騮"係古代"猱"嘅發音,猱就係猴子,發音就係馬騮,不過馬音比現在粵音短。

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歡迎!好耐未見過新人 ^_^

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Quote百友 "馬騮"係古代"猱"嘅發音,猱就係猴子,發音就係馬騮,不過馬音比現在粵音短。「獼」、「猴」、「猱」,日語都讀〔SARU〕 ;「夒」係「猱」本字,日語讀〔MEZARU〕。粵語之所以稱「猴」為〔馬騮〕,呢啲日語資料話毋定可以解釋箇中緣由。另外,檢索網上《韻典網》「猱」字,所得嘅結果入面有專家學者嘅「擬音」,而各個「擬音」嘅起始輔音〔m〕可能同「馬騮」音嘅起始輔音:--檢索範圍:...

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未成名而有角 meaning

HiI am Cantonese. I had left HK when I was 16 and that was decades ago. I can read and speak native standard Cantonese, but I am no longer able to write fluent Cantonese. Hence I write in English....

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Maybe a left-handed person might have an insight on the "A".QuotePepe L HiI am Cantonese. I had left HK when I was 16 and that was decades ago. I can read and speak native standard Cantonese, but I am...

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Re: 未成名而有角 meaning

I guess the key to understanding the expression lies in 「有角」For me it means 「有個性」, not easily tamed, out of the norm.There's also a Cantonese term 「起棱起角」:性格執拗,不圓滑[epaper.oeeee.com]

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Re: 唞大氣 - 可以用㪗

Quote姚玓「㪗」呢個動詞字,從構字部首可知,動作主體係「手」,將「張口呼吸」 講成「 㪗氣」,好比用手搣甩封口膠布,的確係個好好嘅隱喻。左邊令人恁到「剖」,解開

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Re: 唞大氣 - 可以用㪗

咅,他候切,仲係聲旁[ctext.org]

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沱茶

「沱茶」,應該係「坨茶」之訛 。「坨」其實係「堶」嘅假借體,又作「砣」。根據定義,所謂「沱茶」,即係「茶磚」或作「茶塼」,所以「to4 茶」嘅「to4」應從「土」或從「石」,冇理由從「水」。

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烏蠅「嬲」馬尾?

烏蠅如果係「嬲」馬尾嘅,毋使你拍,佢地都毋會聚埋一起啦。「烏蠅()馬尾,一拍兩散」呢個歇後語,()內嗰個字正音讀「lau1」,誤寫作「嬲 (音〔nau1〕)」,謬與「連年」「龍農」兩兩同音無異。「烏蠅 lau1 馬尾」,意思係話烏蠅留連喺馬尾上。所以姚玓懷疑呢個「 lau1 」字係「留」字嘅「陽平」變「陰平」嘅音變。即係話:「烏蠅留馬尾,一拍兩散」先至係正寫。:D

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可以寫 摟[ctext.org]《唐韻》洛侯切《集韻》《韻會》郞侯切《正韻》盧侯切,音樓。《說文》曳聚也。例句:是故天子討而不伐,諸侯伐而不討。五霸者,摟諸侯以伐諸侯者也,故曰:五霸者,三王之罪人也。摟諸侯以伐諸侯者:召集諸侯去打其他諸侯

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又見 《廣州話正音字典》(詹伯慧主編, 2007)[jyut.net] 認爲「lau1」字可以寫成「摟」

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又見 蟻多摟死象[www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk]

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其實我自己覺得最好借「螻」字一來「螻」聯想到「螻蟻」,一大堆密zaa5 zaa2(點寫?),符合「召集」嘅意思二來「螻」字用得少,唔會同「摟」嘅其他意思混淆(比如「摟」返件衫)

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Quotexsden.info摟諸侯以伐諸侯者:召集諸侯去打其他諸侯即係拉攏一派,打擊另一派。烏蠅「拉攏」馬尾,毋 make sense。烏蠅「lau1」馬尾,蜜蜂「lau1」蜜糖,「lau1」蓑衣救火。按照「書語依字彙,口語據方言」呢個取字通則,「lau1」寫作「摟」,本無不可,反正「衣」旁「手」旁互通,早有先例...

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Re: 烏蠅「嬲」馬尾?

Quote姚玓 Quotexsden.info摟諸侯以伐諸侯者:召集諸侯去打其他諸侯即係拉攏一派,打擊另一派。烏蠅「拉攏」馬尾,毋 make sense。應該睇成 烏蠅摟(於)馬尾,摟 = 聚集呢種省略常見於古文,廣東話都有遺存,比如 仆(於)街另外,古文入邊主動、被動並無嚴格句式,如 大敗XX,其實係使 XX大敗

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Re: 烏蠅「嬲」馬尾?

Quote姚玓 「蟻多摟死象」,寫法應該無問題。上面呢句就體現古文句式,補語前置正規講法應該係 蟻多摟象(至)死類似講法有 審死官、算死草、做死人

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蜎窿蜎罅

要借字,不妨用 蜎一來,蜎 提示讀音,同俗寫嘅 捐 好相似二來,形容蟲子爬行的屈曲蠕動的樣子,而gyun1窿gyun1罅呢個動作好容易聯想到係蟲[www.zdic.net]

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